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		<title>By: Wayne, Columbus, OH</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne, Columbus, OH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I won&#039;t miss Starbucks if they completely dissapear.  Since their refusal to support the troops because of a disagreement with the administration, I have completely avoided them!</description>
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		<title>By: S. D. al-Zentari, Richardson, Texas</title>
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		<dc:creator>S. D. al-Zentari, Richardson, Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Starbucks&#039; closing list bears closer examination -- I&#039;m not the only one who detects something less than scientific about Starbucks &quot;formula&quot; for determining which stores get the axe.

Check these: &quot;Strange Brew: The Starbucks Closings - The Kill List&quot; at 

http://blog.myspace.com/blackjack4fun
&amp;
http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/07/14/starbucks-howard-schultz-wake-up-youre-closing-the-wrong-sto/

When he returned to the helm of Starbucks, Howard Schultz decried the frat boy mentality that had run the company into the ground.  How closely has he checked the P &amp; L&#039;s and Balance Sheets for the stores on the shortlist?,&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Starbucks&#8217; closing list bears closer examination &#8212; I&#8217;m not the only one who detects something less than scientific about Starbucks &#8220;formula&#8221; for determining which stores get the axe.</p>
<p>Check these: &#8220;Strange Brew: The Starbucks Closings &#8211; The Kill List&#8221; at </p>
<p><a href="http://blog.myspace.com/blackjack4fun" rel="nofollow">http://blog.myspace.com/blackjack4fun</a><br />
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<p>When he returned to the helm of Starbucks, Howard Schultz decried the frat boy mentality that had run the company into the ground.  How closely has he checked the P &amp; L&#8217;s and Balance Sheets for the stores on the shortlist?,</b></p>
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		<title>By: Jerry. New York, NY</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry. New York, NY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t go a day without coffee from Starbucks. I love their Sumatra Roast. I agree everything&#039;s expensive there. They need to have more rewards for customers like free drinks. There&#039;s no incentives really. You need to buy a starbucks card to get any benefit like refills or 2 hours of free Wi FI. Not bad. Could be more flexible. I don&#039;t agree with people who said that the Lattes were a luxury drink. Most of the Lattes are water-downed milk with no taste. It helps to have a Barista that knows how to make a good cup of joe. I don&#039;t buy lattes from Starbucks because most of the Baristas not experienced with making it. They do it all wrong. I go to a place, a small coffee shop that specializes in the arguably the world&#039;s greatest latte.  They are called Joe&#039;s in the NY. Starbucks as a business has hit a wall as most growing comapnies do and they are trying to salvage as much as they can while the economy destroys their earnings. It&#039;s just life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t go a day without coffee from Starbucks. I love their Sumatra Roast. I agree everything&#8217;s expensive there. They need to have more rewards for customers like free drinks. There&#8217;s no incentives really. You need to buy a starbucks card to get any benefit like refills or 2 hours of free Wi FI. Not bad. Could be more flexible. I don&#8217;t agree with people who said that the Lattes were a luxury drink. Most of the Lattes are water-downed milk with no taste. It helps to have a Barista that knows how to make a good cup of joe. I don&#8217;t buy lattes from Starbucks because most of the Baristas not experienced with making it. They do it all wrong. I go to a place, a small coffee shop that specializes in the arguably the world&#8217;s greatest latte.  They are called Joe&#8217;s in the NY. Starbucks as a business has hit a wall as most growing comapnies do and they are trying to salvage as much as they can while the economy destroys their earnings. It&#8217;s just life.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Fort Worth Texas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon Fort Worth Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I am glad this company is dying. I love how CEOS get paid to even failing a company. I think if they fail they should get double or even triple taxed on that little package. Oh well, I guess they pay in next life. Why because in 6 mos they will be running some other business off the poor desparate people that will fight to death for $10 an hour. The president at my school was going to get starbucks for the students and hire students to work. A coffee that cost roughly less than .50 goes for $4 that includes labor and everything. No its just not at Starbucks it all these wall street traded companies. I have numerous instructors working for these companies by day. They all talk about the greed at companies these days. You wonder why robberies are up across the nation! Then again the best hope is they pay for it next life in the treatment of workers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I am glad this company is dying. I love how CEOS get paid to even failing a company. I think if they fail they should get double or even triple taxed on that little package. Oh well, I guess they pay in next life. Why because in 6 mos they will be running some other business off the poor desparate people that will fight to death for $10 an hour. The president at my school was going to get starbucks for the students and hire students to work. A coffee that cost roughly less than .50 goes for $4 that includes labor and everything. No its just not at Starbucks it all these wall street traded companies. I have numerous instructors working for these companies by day. They all talk about the greed at companies these days. You wonder why robberies are up across the nation! Then again the best hope is they pay for it next life in the treatment of workers.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura, New York, NY</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura, New York, NY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who currently works for Starbucks as a Store Manager I&#039;m sure most of you will discount what I am about to say as being biased but that doesn&#039;t make it any less true...
I&#039;ve been working in the retail/customer service field for over 15 years now and I have never worked for a company that cares so much about its Partners or devotes so much time to training and culture of serving customers. First of all it is not $4.00 for a cup of coffee. Is it $4 for a latte? Yes it is. Why? Because you&#039;re paying for espresso, steamed milk and the experience of being able to customize that drink by telling us if you want it made with soy milk, if you want hazelnut syrup added to it, if you want it half decaf and half regular... A latte is a luxury item folks. It&#039;s not SUPPOSED to be cheap. Considering the fact that I can&#039;t get out of the grocery store without spending less than 40 dollars just to buy BASIC things such as milk, eggs, bread, vegetables and meats I cannot believe people are this incensed over something they don&#039;t NEED to have. 
The fact of the matter is we are not closing 600+ stores because &quot;Starbucks sucks.&quot; We are closing them for two reasons... the first is we expanded too quickly. Yes, bad on us, we get it. However how many of you walked into a Starbucks and complained about the line or lack of seating or us being out of a product? How many of you saw those concerns get better as we opened more stores? We met the demand at the time. The problem and second reason is the country is changing as we go into (or are already in, depending on what news program you listen to) a recession. When a gallon of gas means getting to work and that gallon of gas is almost $5 does it not make sense to anyone but me that people are cutting luxuries out of their lives? 
Starbucks is being accused of being greedy which is laughable to me. As someone already pointed out, we offer FULL medical, dental, vision and life insurance to all of our partners who work an average of 20 hours a week or more. Every partner who is with the company for over a year is granted stock options they never have to put a penny into to get the profits. All part time partners are entitled to 401k and a stock purchase program. We offer tuition reimbursement, a fund to assist partners financially if they come upon hard times, paid vacation time to all partners even if they are part time and a dozen more benefits I could go on and list. 
As for people complaining about letting people sit there on their laptops, you should talk with the people who are complaining if we had free wifi more people would come in to use their laptops. For those complaining we don&#039;t manually pull shots anymore, speak with the people who complain we are not fast enough and need better machines to get people through the door faster. No company in the history of the world has ever pleased all of the people all of the time and we are no different. While we struggle to please as many customers as we can because the company honestly DOES care about their customers, the fact remains that we have shareholders to answer to and ultimately a company needs to turn a profit at the end of the day so we try and find a happy medium that will please the largest majority of the people we can find. 
If you simply don&#039;t like the coffee, that is entirely your opinion and I can&#039;t argue an opinion with you. But please do not assume 12,000 partners are facing an uncertain job future because &quot;our coffee sucks&quot;. And for the record... all the partners whose stores are closing are being offered a new store if we have one within a reasonable commuting distance or a severence package, once again including our part timers. Show me a McDonalds or a Dunkin Donuts where they do THAT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who currently works for Starbucks as a Store Manager I&#8217;m sure most of you will discount what I am about to say as being biased but that doesn&#8217;t make it any less true&#8230;<br />
I&#8217;ve been working in the retail/customer service field for over 15 years now and I have never worked for a company that cares so much about its Partners or devotes so much time to training and culture of serving customers. First of all it is not $4.00 for a cup of coffee. Is it $4 for a latte? Yes it is. Why? Because you&#8217;re paying for espresso, steamed milk and the experience of being able to customize that drink by telling us if you want it made with soy milk, if you want hazelnut syrup added to it, if you want it half decaf and half regular&#8230; A latte is a luxury item folks. It&#8217;s not SUPPOSED to be cheap. Considering the fact that I can&#8217;t get out of the grocery store without spending less than 40 dollars just to buy BASIC things such as milk, eggs, bread, vegetables and meats I cannot believe people are this incensed over something they don&#8217;t NEED to have.<br />
The fact of the matter is we are not closing 600+ stores because &#8220;Starbucks sucks.&#8221; We are closing them for two reasons&#8230; the first is we expanded too quickly. Yes, bad on us, we get it. However how many of you walked into a Starbucks and complained about the line or lack of seating or us being out of a product? How many of you saw those concerns get better as we opened more stores? We met the demand at the time. The problem and second reason is the country is changing as we go into (or are already in, depending on what news program you listen to) a recession. When a gallon of gas means getting to work and that gallon of gas is almost $5 does it not make sense to anyone but me that people are cutting luxuries out of their lives?<br />
Starbucks is being accused of being greedy which is laughable to me. As someone already pointed out, we offer FULL medical, dental, vision and life insurance to all of our partners who work an average of 20 hours a week or more. Every partner who is with the company for over a year is granted stock options they never have to put a penny into to get the profits. All part time partners are entitled to 401k and a stock purchase program. We offer tuition reimbursement, a fund to assist partners financially if they come upon hard times, paid vacation time to all partners even if they are part time and a dozen more benefits I could go on and list.<br />
As for people complaining about letting people sit there on their laptops, you should talk with the people who are complaining if we had free wifi more people would come in to use their laptops. For those complaining we don&#8217;t manually pull shots anymore, speak with the people who complain we are not fast enough and need better machines to get people through the door faster. No company in the history of the world has ever pleased all of the people all of the time and we are no different. While we struggle to please as many customers as we can because the company honestly DOES care about their customers, the fact remains that we have shareholders to answer to and ultimately a company needs to turn a profit at the end of the day so we try and find a happy medium that will please the largest majority of the people we can find.<br />
If you simply don&#8217;t like the coffee, that is entirely your opinion and I can&#8217;t argue an opinion with you. But please do not assume 12,000 partners are facing an uncertain job future because &#8220;our coffee sucks&#8221;. And for the record&#8230; all the partners whose stores are closing are being offered a new store if we have one within a reasonable commuting distance or a severence package, once again including our part timers. Show me a McDonalds or a Dunkin Donuts where they do THAT.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Orlando, FL</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Orlando, FL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm...You didn&#039;t even attempt to address THE number one reason Starbucks is having trouble.   PRICE!!   Get the prices back down to normal and then let&#039;s talk.  Go check the price of McDonald&#039;s coffee and other drinks and you&#039;ll see why they&#039;re slowing killing Starbucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;You didn&#8217;t even attempt to address THE number one reason Starbucks is having trouble.   PRICE!!   Get the prices back down to normal and then let&#8217;s talk.  Go check the price of McDonald&#8217;s coffee and other drinks and you&#8217;ll see why they&#8217;re slowing killing Starbucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk Parkersburg, wv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk Parkersburg, wv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most generous? Just ask the Troops how generous they were to them.</description>
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		<title>By: Robert Bell, Aurora New York</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Bell, Aurora New York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are closing 600 stores and laying off 12,000 workers.  Do the math, that&#039;s TWENTY EMPLOYEES PER STORE.

No wonder they are having trouble.

I suspect a lot of other retail chains will experience similar troubles.  On a recent visit to fast-growing Tractor Supply, I counted 5 employees in the store, but only ONE actually helping customers and checking them out.

Ditto for Autozone.  These retail chains need better middle management (better, not MORE) to crack down on employees who are always &quot;on break&quot; and can&#039;t help sell product.

How many times have you been to Starbucks, seen an army of people behind the counter, and yet waited 20 minutes for your latte?

In a boom economy, any retailer can afford such inefficiencies.  In this economy, only the efficient will survive.

A coffee shop should require one or two employees at most.  5 or 10 is ludicrous.  20 is obscene.

The Mom &amp; Pop shops will survive this downturn, ironically, as they have few or no employees to pay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are closing 600 stores and laying off 12,000 workers.  Do the math, that&#8217;s TWENTY EMPLOYEES PER STORE.</p>
<p>No wonder they are having trouble.</p>
<p>I suspect a lot of other retail chains will experience similar troubles.  On a recent visit to fast-growing Tractor Supply, I counted 5 employees in the store, but only ONE actually helping customers and checking them out.</p>
<p>Ditto for Autozone.  These retail chains need better middle management (better, not MORE) to crack down on employees who are always &#8220;on break&#8221; and can&#8217;t help sell product.</p>
<p>How many times have you been to Starbucks, seen an army of people behind the counter, and yet waited 20 minutes for your latte?</p>
<p>In a boom economy, any retailer can afford such inefficiencies.  In this economy, only the efficient will survive.</p>
<p>A coffee shop should require one or two employees at most.  5 or 10 is ludicrous.  20 is obscene.</p>
<p>The Mom &amp; Pop shops will survive this downturn, ironically, as they have few or no employees to pay.</p>
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		<title>By: wes, denver, co</title>
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		<dc:creator>wes, denver, co</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having worked at Starbucks through college from 1997 to 2002, I have a different perspective.  When I started as a barista, you were required to attend 40 hours of classroom training, which included smelling, tasting and learning about the overall roasting process.  We also learned how the machines worked and how to maintain them.  It was really quite impressive.  And, in my opinion, at least then, the coffee was of very good quality.  Even the Frappucino&#039;s (which I despise) were made from freshly brewed double strength coffee.  Now, it is a powdered solution mixed with a condensed diary product of some kind.

But around 1999 or so, the expansion of stores really took off.  I would agree that Starbucks did indeed grow too quickly.  But to grow that quickly and still maintain profits, it required abandoning core competencies.  I saw many, many long term managers that were VERY good at their job (I&#039;m in IT now, but my Starbucks manager often makes these people look like amateurs) leave Starbucks over their disgust of the culture change.  

It is that culture change which is the true cause.  I would also add that the farther away you get from Seattle (having attending management training), the more apparent this is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having worked at Starbucks through college from 1997 to 2002, I have a different perspective.  When I started as a barista, you were required to attend 40 hours of classroom training, which included smelling, tasting and learning about the overall roasting process.  We also learned how the machines worked and how to maintain them.  It was really quite impressive.  And, in my opinion, at least then, the coffee was of very good quality.  Even the Frappucino&#8217;s (which I despise) were made from freshly brewed double strength coffee.  Now, it is a powdered solution mixed with a condensed diary product of some kind.</p>
<p>But around 1999 or so, the expansion of stores really took off.  I would agree that Starbucks did indeed grow too quickly.  But to grow that quickly and still maintain profits, it required abandoning core competencies.  I saw many, many long term managers that were VERY good at their job (I&#8217;m in IT now, but my Starbucks manager often makes these people look like amateurs) leave Starbucks over their disgust of the culture change.  </p>
<p>It is that culture change which is the true cause.  I would also add that the farther away you get from Seattle (having attending management training), the more apparent this is.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne, Los Angeles, CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne, Los Angeles, CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People love to bash SBUX as greedy yet they are the ones who are truly ignorant.  Starbucks is one of the most generous companies out there.  I know from experience because I was a manager there.  

Health insurance anyone?  Starbucks offers FULL medical, dental, AND mental health insurance to all workers who work 20 HOURS/week or more.  Mental health was particularly important to Schultz because he understood that store employees are the front-line of the company and take particular abuse from whiny, ignorant American consumers (many of them posting here with glee about making a better cup of coffee with Folgers).  Name me an ungreedy American company that does that.

How about the coffee farmer?  By charging more, SBUX is able to pay the farmer better.  Farmers and cooperatives working with SBUX have had improvements in quality of life because of that $12LB of coffee beans.

I too feel they over-expanded but I blame Wall Street and the American way of doing business that requires constant growth at all costs so that big shareholders can sit back and collect hard earned profits of workers.  We employees were happy with even the most modest growth of our stock options because we were investing for the future, not next quarter.

Finally, what was the dagger to my heart was the replacement of machines that required you to &quot;pull&quot; the shot for the customer with push-button gizmos. That art was taught to me by a company that went to Italy to learn how it should be done and the rich history that goes along with it.  Mechanization of an art form will almost always kill the art.

Still I will always support Starbucks over McDonalds.  McD coffee never can compare until they devote their souls to coffee the way SBUX does.  And I always support companies that give good benefits even to the part-timer (that&#039;s why I never set foot in Walmart).  Long live Starbucks and socially-just companies like them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People love to bash SBUX as greedy yet they are the ones who are truly ignorant.  Starbucks is one of the most generous companies out there.  I know from experience because I was a manager there.  </p>
<p>Health insurance anyone?  Starbucks offers FULL medical, dental, AND mental health insurance to all workers who work 20 HOURS/week or more.  Mental health was particularly important to Schultz because he understood that store employees are the front-line of the company and take particular abuse from whiny, ignorant American consumers (many of them posting here with glee about making a better cup of coffee with Folgers).  Name me an ungreedy American company that does that.</p>
<p>How about the coffee farmer?  By charging more, SBUX is able to pay the farmer better.  Farmers and cooperatives working with SBUX have had improvements in quality of life because of that $12LB of coffee beans.</p>
<p>I too feel they over-expanded but I blame Wall Street and the American way of doing business that requires constant growth at all costs so that big shareholders can sit back and collect hard earned profits of workers.  We employees were happy with even the most modest growth of our stock options because we were investing for the future, not next quarter.</p>
<p>Finally, what was the dagger to my heart was the replacement of machines that required you to &#8220;pull&#8221; the shot for the customer with push-button gizmos. That art was taught to me by a company that went to Italy to learn how it should be done and the rich history that goes along with it.  Mechanization of an art form will almost always kill the art.</p>
<p>Still I will always support Starbucks over McDonalds.  McD coffee never can compare until they devote their souls to coffee the way SBUX does.  And I always support companies that give good benefits even to the part-timer (that&#8217;s why I never set foot in Walmart).  Long live Starbucks and socially-just companies like them!</p>
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		<title>By: jack, phoenix, AZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>jack, phoenix, AZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Starbucks is good coffee, but way to expensive. Double shots in the can were great for a $1 each but $1.50 each no way. Discounted should be $.75. Drop prices 50% and see customers come back.</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Ann, Jacksonville,FL</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Ann, Jacksonville,FL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry to hear about starbucks however
their coffee quality is far better than
what the fast food chains offer. AND FRESHER.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry to hear about starbucks however<br />
their coffee quality is far better than<br />
what the fast food chains offer. AND FRESHER.</p>
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		<title>By: Sal  Las Vegas, NV</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sal  Las Vegas, NV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off they opened up way to many stores.  Why do we need one on every block?  Second their product is overpriced and terrible.  Their coffee is burned and their pasteries taste like cardboard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off they opened up way to many stores.  Why do we need one on every block?  Second their product is overpriced and terrible.  Their coffee is burned and their pasteries taste like cardboard.</p>
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		<title>By: MonK; Mesa, AZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MonK; Mesa, AZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish McD or DD will buy out Starbucks down the road so better coffee can be served to the masses. Their coffee is so gross it should only be sold at pharmacies as a substitute for Philips Milk of Magnesia. No wonder Starbucks is free-falling like General Motors and other greedy corporations. More power to McD and DD!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish McD or DD will buy out Starbucks down the road so better coffee can be served to the masses. Their coffee is so gross it should only be sold at pharmacies as a substitute for Philips Milk of Magnesia. No wonder Starbucks is free-falling like General Motors and other greedy corporations. More power to McD and DD!</p>
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		<title>By: dzadzoo, lbc, ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>dzadzoo, lbc, ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>starbucks opened way too many stores.  the article says it has over 7000 in the US alone.  50 states, 7000 stores.  howard screwed the pooch royally on that one.  if they closed 6000 stores, they would become profitable again.  600 stores will do nothing for their bottom line.  they need to be more realistic.  about three years ago i predicted starbucks downfall when my friend (an ex starbucks mgr) posed this question to me - &quot;how many starbucks are in dc?&quot;  (keep in mind the population of dc is a little over 600,000.)  answer: over 500 stores.  howard, u must have been out your damn mind!!!  the original starbucks owners defected to peet&#039;s coffee and tea company years ago when they saw howard&#039;s ignorance at business.  maybe the consumer should too.  it&#039;s harder to find a peet&#039;s coffee, therefore making it more attractive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>starbucks opened way too many stores.  the article says it has over 7000 in the US alone.  50 states, 7000 stores.  howard screwed the pooch royally on that one.  if they closed 6000 stores, they would become profitable again.  600 stores will do nothing for their bottom line.  they need to be more realistic.  about three years ago i predicted starbucks downfall when my friend (an ex starbucks mgr) posed this question to me &#8211; &#8220;how many starbucks are in dc?&#8221;  (keep in mind the population of dc is a little over 600,000.)  answer: over 500 stores.  howard, u must have been out your damn mind!!!  the original starbucks owners defected to peet&#8217;s coffee and tea company years ago when they saw howard&#8217;s ignorance at business.  maybe the consumer should too.  it&#8217;s harder to find a peet&#8217;s coffee, therefore making it more attractive.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy, Clermont Fl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy, Clermont Fl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was never a Starbucks fan whatsoever.
They were completely overpriced and
overrated.  If they had held their
prices at bay they may have been able
to hang on. Like everthing else in the
country greed is always in the forefront. Besides that I didn&#039;t like
their coffee at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was never a Starbucks fan whatsoever.<br />
They were completely overpriced and<br />
overrated.  If they had held their<br />
prices at bay they may have been able<br />
to hang on. Like everthing else in the<br />
country greed is always in the forefront. Besides that I didn&#8217;t like<br />
their coffee at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave - Columbus, Ohio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave - Columbus, Ohio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The biggest reason for Starbucks hitting the wall is that people&#039;s palates changed and recognized their coffee just isn&#039;t that good.

But I find it sad that they have to close stores, not because they&#039;re closing them, but because 12k people will be losing their jobs.  Yes, Starbucks oversaturated the market with mediocre coffee.  But the one thing I ALWAYS found when I just needed the caffeine and not flavor is that Starbucks employees have always given excellent customer service.  That&#039;s rare in these days.

I may not be a fan of their coffee, but their customer service is exceptional.  I hold no animosity toward the company and hope to see them bounce back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest reason for Starbucks hitting the wall is that people&#8217;s palates changed and recognized their coffee just isn&#8217;t that good.</p>
<p>But I find it sad that they have to close stores, not because they&#8217;re closing them, but because 12k people will be losing their jobs.  Yes, Starbucks oversaturated the market with mediocre coffee.  But the one thing I ALWAYS found when I just needed the caffeine and not flavor is that Starbucks employees have always given excellent customer service.  That&#8217;s rare in these days.</p>
<p>I may not be a fan of their coffee, but their customer service is exceptional.  I hold no animosity toward the company and hope to see them bounce back.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Rogozinski; Orlando, Florida</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Rogozinski; Orlando, Florida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting thought..........
Would you rather pay $4.00 for an overpriced cup of coffee or $4.00 for an overpriced gallon of gasoline? Unfortunately, we can do without the $4 coffee, but we can&#039;t do without the $4 gasoline!!! Maybe our economy and high gas prices have SOMETHING to do with Starbucks&#039; dilema?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting thought&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
Would you rather pay $4.00 for an overpriced cup of coffee or $4.00 for an overpriced gallon of gasoline? Unfortunately, we can do without the $4 coffee, but we can&#8217;t do without the $4 gasoline!!! Maybe our economy and high gas prices have SOMETHING to do with Starbucks&#8217; dilema?</p>
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		<title>By: Dirk, Everett, Wa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dirk, Everett, Wa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Starbucks coffee is decent, if perhaps slightly on the burnt side of properly roasted.  The &quot;Starbucks Experience&quot; is absolutely miserable.  Opinions vary, but this is mine.  There is nothing special or luxurious about going to get coffee from Starbucks anymore.  Independent coffee houses I can go to all provide a beverage that is at least as good as Starbucks, often much better tasting, and a nice environment to enjoy the coffee in.  What happened to the old espresso machines where the barista had to grind beans and tamp in the grounds before brewing the shots?  I&#039;m talking about the truly hand crafted coffee that you can no longer get at Starbucks.  The stuff from the automated espresso machines is terrible and there is obviously no skill involved, just put a cup under the spout and push the button.  As for the stores, when you&#039;re in an actual store and not the lobby of a grocery store, the place is loud and crowded.  Between the bad music, tables and lounge chairs pushed together and people packed in 20 deep trying to get a cup to go, as well as half the store being set aside for retail to sell cups and espresso makers and other overpriced junk.....there is no experience anymore.  At this rate, Starbucks has become little more than higher priced fast food, and that is not an experience I want to spend $4 for a cup of coffee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Starbucks coffee is decent, if perhaps slightly on the burnt side of properly roasted.  The &#8220;Starbucks Experience&#8221; is absolutely miserable.  Opinions vary, but this is mine.  There is nothing special or luxurious about going to get coffee from Starbucks anymore.  Independent coffee houses I can go to all provide a beverage that is at least as good as Starbucks, often much better tasting, and a nice environment to enjoy the coffee in.  What happened to the old espresso machines where the barista had to grind beans and tamp in the grounds before brewing the shots?  I&#8217;m talking about the truly hand crafted coffee that you can no longer get at Starbucks.  The stuff from the automated espresso machines is terrible and there is obviously no skill involved, just put a cup under the spout and push the button.  As for the stores, when you&#8217;re in an actual store and not the lobby of a grocery store, the place is loud and crowded.  Between the bad music, tables and lounge chairs pushed together and people packed in 20 deep trying to get a cup to go, as well as half the store being set aside for retail to sell cups and espresso makers and other overpriced junk&#8230;..there is no experience anymore.  At this rate, Starbucks has become little more than higher priced fast food, and that is not an experience I want to spend $4 for a cup of coffee.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie, Los Angeles California</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurie, Los Angeles California</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I were Schultz, trying to improve Starbuck&#039;s profit margin, one of my first orders of business would be to kick out the schizoids who sit there all day with their laptops and take valuable tables away from people who&#039;d like to buy a cup of coffee and relax for a few moments before resuming their busy day.  Starbucks used to be a classy place to go.  Now it&#039;s  become the Greyhound station of the new millenium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I were Schultz, trying to improve Starbuck&#8217;s profit margin, one of my first orders of business would be to kick out the schizoids who sit there all day with their laptops and take valuable tables away from people who&#8217;d like to buy a cup of coffee and relax for a few moments before resuming their busy day.  Starbucks used to be a classy place to go.  Now it&#8217;s  become the Greyhound station of the new millenium.</p>
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